No your rants are not going in empty space….!!

Neither do I have any objections
to artificial organs or even animal organs transplanted.

I am not condemning the rich for being rich.
I am an economic migrant myself, it would be hypocrisy if I did.
I will respect any wealthy philanthropist, who thinks of the less fortunates.

It is just this nature of the transplants surgery
and its ethical issues that I object to.
When the intense desire to live
will not stop us from wishing death of another.
Where the blackmarketeers will not hesitate to kill
to be able to get their ‘merchandise’.

I feel we should re-learn to accept
death’s inevitability and not go to such extremes to fight it.

I know my ranting will not change anything,
at least I know what action I will be taking under those circumstances,
and have the satisfaction of expressed my opinion out to the world.

I was prepared to answer more aggressive comments.
I know why people support transplant surgery.
They see it as a life saving procedure.
I count the cost someone else
has to pay for every transplant to succeed.

There are few issues where I do not accept grey zones, this is one of them.

If a person has to sell his kidney to save his children
the society has failed him. The world has gone wrong.
Next time he faces starvation what else will he sell?
His children’s kidneys? Perhaps.
He is now living with one functioning kidney,
and if that gets blocked or damaged
he dies, his five children along with him.
For he has sold off his back up, and no one will give him one.
The example you have given of a donor being looked after is a rarity.

Unfortunately I have to trash
the system and not individuals.
Transplant treatment is a team work.
From harvesting, typing, implanting
and then a lifetime of medical support.
For any illegal transplant to take place,
the whole system has to co-operate or it will not function.

Those who benefits from this, will see it as right
and only those who suffer will see it as wrong.
I am reluctant to believe there has never been
even a single patient or a relative who
has not prayed for an accident to happen,
for a healthy person to brain-die, so that themselves can live.
To me it is no different than a vulture waiting for someone to die.

Think of the millions being spent to develop
this treatment, which benefits only those who can afford.
When that money could have been used to save so many more
who are dying from lack of clean water, food shelter or simple cures.

It cannot be right.

If you want to trash – trash ” certain” people , you can’t trash the system ( I am sure the people those who thought of trasnplant as life saving pratice were not so “Vision oriented ” when you talk of “organ trafficking”
Personally I have seen cases , where the trasplant was done, the patient body was not able to handle, died finally – the family ( partner to be precise) is still taking care of the person who donated the organ.
I have no idea wether we can really say – what exactly poverty means and does to people. For you buying an organ is illegal – fair enough !! However -think of a person – may be selling an organ means – avoiding death of 5 of his children. Do you think somebody would give money free to them….no na…!

this is one issue that raises
aggressive and often rude comments
especially from the medical professionals.
Which I strongly feel is a head in the sand attitude.

As if to say,
‘saving’ one life justifies
(not really saving, only prolonging)
the human rights abuses, the lies and deceptions,
stealing, forcibly removing or even killing others.

I would like to see
every transplant surgeon
donating one of their own kidneys
to show that it is safe to risk a life with only one kidney.
I am certain only a few of them will agree to set the example.

Hope you are well Little Indian. Warmest wishes.

some British medics are calling for the organ trade to be licensed to reduce its activities on the black market and to minimise “transplant tourism”.

Personally, I think if a person wishes to freely donate their organs after death then that is their right. But I strongly agree with you in that the organ should not be “for sale”. it should be donated freely and implanted freely.

Making them saleable items results in the wealthiest being first in the health queue yet again. And it would also result in poorer people who are desperate to see their loved ones recieve a transplant, making themselves bankrupt in order to buy the organ.

You make some very good points here Little Indian. And I totally hear what you’re saying regarding the moral issues here too. I too would definitely refuse an illegally-harvested organ. I remember the cas about the childrens bodies being recovered. It disturbs me immensely to know that this sort of thing goes on.

I also hear you about simply accepting the inevitability of death. We live in a world were we think we can now conquer death . . . a world where we meddle and interfere with the natural proccess so much so that we believe we are gods.

That said, I’m sure as a mother, I would take advantage of any medical progress that would help my child if the need ever arose. But certainly not if another child was deliberatly killed for it.

If buying organs is an acceptable practice,
why we do not see the rich people selling theirs?
Why such a shortage of donors in the rich ‘west’,
for patients to travel to poor east to buy organs?

I do not object to
blood transfusion (that is a form of transplant)or
bone marrow transplants, the donor do not suffer permanent damage.
Neither do I object to voluntary donation of organs, ie kidneys.

But when we go into
hearts and lungs and livers,
unfortnately one human has to die for another to live.

This is where the grey area starts.
Where the black market in organs thrives.
The basic principles of the process is such,
it favours the criminals, and exploits the weak and the poor.

It is also certain this illegal trade
would not have been possible without involvement of
some unscrupulous money hungry psychopathic doctors, who have no conscience.

There was this case in Delhi
(? – I have lost the BBC weblink)
where many childrens’ skeletons were recovered,
it was suspected they were abducted and killed for their organs.

How many prisoner were executed without a retrial?
How many ITU resuscitators are switched off too quickly?
How many street children disappears never to be found again?
Every single one, is one too many.

Just like cloning is still illegal,
I believe so should be transplantation,
with criminal liability for any doctor who participates.
That is the only way of stopping this cruel exploitation.

It is easy, if we learn to accept death will take us all oneday.

Your reply and the last para of your post has got me a little confused. Are you against organ transplant on the whole? Or only if the transplant is being done using an organ obtained illegally?

And about my blog…I don’t know why that’s happening !! I checked if your comment was taken as spam but that also hasn’t happened. And ban you? Didn’t know I could do that !

The answer to your question is, yes.
What I said is not just a passing statement.
This is a belief that has grown in me over many years.
If I change my stance, when it directly involves me, would be hypocrisy.

We are forgetting that death is an <b>inevitable</b> end.
Transplants do not give immortality, it just prolongs life.
I do not believe in adding extra years to life,
at the cost of someone’s poverty, misfortune or someone’s grief.

If someone very close needs a kidney,
I am prepared to donate one of my own,
But I would never agree to ‘buy’ an organ for them,
neither would I sit and pray for a fatal accident to happen.

As long as one can get organs for free, ie in UK,
or cheap, ie from the subcontinent, or eastern europe
it is a great form of treatment and to oppose it is a sacrilege.

If it is such a significant medical advance,
why is there a ‘shortage’ of organs in the rich west,
and why westerners have to procure their organs from the third world?
Transplant surgery can only be clean and moral
when humans learn to grow artificial organs for replacement.

How many recipients of organs would themselves donate, you reckon?
What if the policy is you get a liver in return give up a kidney?
Or someone in the family donates back in return,
how many would you think will take up on that condition?
Or even better,
all transplant surgeons gives a kidney
to get license to practice (they earn a fortune doing it).

I cannot make the decision for others,
the legislation also stops me from preventing others.
But if I am the patient, I will refuse
I have made it absolutely clear to my folks.
I firmly belief the current practice is morally wrong.

What about you?
What if I ask you the same question,
would you be happy to buy an illegally harvested organ?
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BTW, flowerchild,
Your blog refused to
accept my comments to your last post.
I tried twice, it just kept disappearing.
Have you banned me or something?